Jeremiah Tolbert

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Revising Short Fiction is for Suckers

I’ve heard a lot of dif­fer­ent opin­ions on the sub­ject of revi­sion over the years. The one that has stuck with me was the opin­ion of, I think it was Heinlein. This author wrote one draft, dropped it in the mail, and never looked back. I don’t know what his rea­sons for this were, but I know what a mod­ern writer’s rea­sons would be, espe­cially when it comes to short fiction.

It’s all about time man­age­ment and cost/benefit analy­sis. Because sto­ries are pur­chased not based on the time it took to write them but how many words they con­tain, the actual hourly wage you make varies depend­ing on how much time you spend on a story. And the more time you spend, the less money you’re making.

For exam­ple, I gen­er­ally write first drafts at a speed of 1000–2000 words an hour. At a mod­er­ately decent payrate of 5 cents a word, that puts me at $50 an hour, if I were to sell my first draft. That’s a very nice hourly wage. Each draft you do, and each hour you spend rework­ing your draft, is reduc­ing your poten­tial hourly income. Spend as much time revis­ing as you did writ­ing the story, and now you’ve cut your hourly in half. Spend three times as long revis­ing the story as you did writ­ing it and now we’re talk­ing work­ing at McDonalds wages. I guess it’s bet­ter than dig­ging ditches.

However, I per­son­ally am not a writer who can churn out a sell­able first draft. I find the story in revi­sion, much like Pixar does. Partly this is because I often start writ­ing a story before the idea has fully fer­mented. Partly this is because I write so fast when I am on the first draft that I miss good oppor­tu­ni­ties. It’s only in sub­se­quent drafts that I can tweak the machin­ery of story into a form that actu­ally runs.

When I first started out writ­ing, I was with Heinlein all the way. One draft, and be done with it. And I sold a cou­ple. I also never sold dozens. When you think about it, was that really mak­ing me any more money as a writer? Almost cer­tainly not. It’s prob­a­bly a wash, if I sat down to fig­ure it out.

These days, I not only redraft and redraft, I also sit on sto­ries for months or years. Yesterday, I broke out a story that I wrote almost 2 years ago and began revis­ing. It’s prob­a­bly now on draft 5 or 6. And it’s most likely still not there.

These days, I’m much more con­cerned with mak­ing money from my writ­ing than I was before. That’s because I have no reg­u­lar source of income. So I’m look­ing at the Heinlein way again. It’s wish­ful think­ing though. I’m not a first draft writer, and that’s okay. Even if my hourly wage works out to be some­thing akin to min­i­mum wage, it’s still bet­ter work than just about any job that actu­ally pays min­i­mum wage. Unless that job has health insurance.

What’s your approach to revis­ing? What’s the longest you’ve ever tin­kered with a piece before send­ing it out?

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  1. Interesting points, there. My input would be that it’s a dif­fer­ent mar­ket to the one of Heinlein’s day in many ways, and that the more you write the less you may find you need to revise; if the process is any­thing like the way I learn things as I do them more, you’ll inter­nalise a lot of the revi­sion process into the devel­op­ment and first draft.

    Even so, good food for thought, espe­cially for mug­gins here who has yet to com­plete a short story worth send­ing anywhere… :)

  2. Authorwerx,” which appeared on Escape Pod, went through too many revi­sions for me to count. I wrote it, revised it, took it to a work­shop, revised it, sent it off to F&SF, got a revi­sion request and revised it, got rejected by F&SF, revised it, revised it again, sent it off to Amazing Stories (dur­ing a brief win­dow when there *was* an Amazing Stories), sold it. Stopped revis­ing it. If I broke it down to an hourly wage, I prob­a­bly owe some­body some money.

    I think Jonathan Coulton has a good anal­ogy for the way his music career works that applies to short fic­tion. He doesn’t track his income by look­ing at sales for any par­tic­u­lar song. Instead, he sees music as a big cow. Music goes in its mouth, money comes out its ass. But what hap­pens inside remains some­thing of a mys­tery. Somebody might hear a song of his for free and then buy a dif­fer­ent song, or a t-shirt, or his con­cert DVD, or a ticket to a show. It’s all about hav­ing a big con­glom­er­ated thing called Music that peo­ple will buy in dif­fer­ent quan­ti­ties, for­mats, and in dif­fer­ent amounts.

    Like, I had that flash piece, “Taco,” run on Escape Pod last week. I wrote it and posted it on my blog for free, then Steve Eley bought it, along with five other flash pieces, at a rate of $30 for all six pieces. (This was way back in 2005 before Steve raised his rates.) But you guys posted it right when I had a novel come out. So, maybe some­one heard the story and went and bought the book. Wil Wheaton linked to the story on his blog and told peo­ple about my novel. Maybe some of those peo­ple went and bought the book.

    In any case, I earned way, way less than min­i­mum wage for “Taco,” but now it’s there inside the cow, maybe doing mys­te­ri­ous but ben­e­fi­cial things for me.

  3. Good points, Greg.

    I want a cow now.

  4. Probably it’s best to not look at fic­ton as the money maker. There are other types of writ­ing that reli­ably give good ROI. Marketing copy, for instance, and def­i­nitely non-fiction. Especially the for­mer, which is what I’d be doing on the side if it weren’t for the non-compete of my job.

  5. Greg has a really great point, that you have to look at the macro scale when you’re free­lanc­ing in the arts. There are so many con­nec­tions that get made, but can’t be tracked.

    I’ve strug­gled with this myself. From an eco­nomic per­spec­tive, blog­ging is a waste of time. I earn about $10/month from ads, and spend 30–40 hours a month writ­ing and main­tain­ing it.

    However, I’ve got­ten sev­eral writ­ing gigs based on the strength of my blog posts, and made hun­dreds of con­tacts over the years. How to quan­tify that with a dol­lar value? It’s impos­si­ble. But it’s def­i­nitely a sig­nif­i­cant number.

    When writ­ing, I try to revise to the 85th or 90th per­centile. I revise until it’s bet­ter than “good enough,” but not quite to “really out­stand­ing.” I find that’s the point of dimin­ish­ing returns, for the time/earnings equation.

  6. Maybe I’m too much of a purist but I think that writ­ing the story until it’s the best it can be is a good way to go. Then again, I don’t write for a liv­ing, it’s in addi­tion to a reg­u­lar full time job that pays all the bills (and sup­plies health care, to your point above.)

    Also, when I read Erika’s remarks, I’m not sur­prised to find that in 2005 six pieces of flash fic­tion earned a total of $30. I don’t think that short story writ­ing is some­thing that gen­er­ates a lot of cash.

    If any­thing, it’s closer to what Greg said above about the cow. You write short sto­ries and get them pub­lished and it becomes part of the Literature col­lec­tive. It helps you build your name and rep­u­ta­tion. By being pub­lished it shows that there are edi­tors out there that believe in your work, which can influ­ence pub­lish­ers of nov­els — should you be inter­ested in pub­lish­ing a novel.

    So to con­clude, I think sto­ries should be the best they can be because they rep­re­sent you. Making $50 or $100 bucks on a story isn’t worth it if it cre­ates an impres­sion of you as an author that isn’t accu­rate, in terms of your “real” abilities.

  7. This post is just like an L. Ron Hubbard essay I read in one of the WOTF vol­umes, where he decided which genre to focus on. If I remem­ber right, we lost.

    The prob­lem, I think, is look­ing to make money from short fic­tion, but I under­stand the need for money. If you do the analy­sis right, you should be writ­ing non-fiction arti­cles for mag­a­zines that pay more like $1 a word.

    Fiction, espe­cially short fic­tion, should be done for the art (Hemingway did over 200 drafts of Old Man and the Sea, and not for the money) and to pro­mote things that make more money (e.g. nov­els, future nov­els). Asking how to make money with short fic­tion is accept­ing a bad premise, I think.

    L. Ron reached that con­clu­sion, too, a few years after his essay. He fig­ured out that writ­ing reli­gious doc­trine paid bet­ter than all the mag­a­zines com­bined, and then some.

  8. On Heinlein:

    For a long time I thought I’d read Heinlein’s rule three wrong.
    “3) You must refrain from rewrit­ing except to edi­to­r­ial order.“
    ’Sure,’ I thought, ‘but you need to take sev­eral passes over the thing before send­ing it out, surely? Doesn’t this mean not rewrit­ing once it attains a cer­tain level of quality?’

    So when you posted this, I tried to find the orig­i­nal essay. I failed, but I did find this entry from Darrell Schweitzer:

    http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/nonfiction/revision.htm

    It’s a great essay — please check it out — and it con­tains this quote from Heinlein:

    This is very dif­fi­cult for a great many begin­ners to believe. A myth has grown up that writ­ing, in order to be pub­lish­able, must be rewrit­ten at least twice. Not true. It’s utterly false. The way to write effi­ciently is the way to do any other job what­so­ever. Do it right the first time. This myth is based on the assump­tion that you’re smarter today than you were yes­ter­day. But you’re not. Oh you may have learned some­thing today that you use the rest of your life, but you’re no smarter. Consider a man who makes custom-made fur­ni­ture. If he thinks of a new design for a chair, he doesn’t tear up the chair he made yes­ter­day. He puts that on the dis­play floor and tries to sell it, and he makes a new chair by the new design that he thought of. This is the no-rewriting rule.”

    This is pretty much the same advice as Norman Mailer gives in his book on writ­ing, where he says writ­ing is easy as long as you’re a genius, so just be a genius (be Norman Mailer) and you’re OK. This isn’t advice, it’s just show­ing you what an ass the author is. (Yes, I just called Norman Mailer an ass. Yes, he’s one of my major influ­ences. I think he’d be OK with this)

    If you’re just going to write one draft and send it out, you’ll get rejected — if you’re lucky. If you’re unlucky, some edi­tor will pub­lish it. Every piece of fic­tion you release is another point in the argu­ment ‘why you should read my stuff’. If some­one reads a first-draft won­der, decides it’s crap and never comes back, you’ve lost them for­ever. Theoretically, the more you write, the stronger your first drafts will become, although that’s not been true for me — the num­ber of drafts I require before I’m sat­is­fied with the result depends on how ambi­tious my goals are for that story. I’ve sold exactly one story on sec­ond draft — most go to about eight before I can even bear to look at them.

    Again, quot­ing from Schweitzer’s essay:
    “But Heinlein also quipped, in his 1947 essay: ‘you will some­where find some edi­tor some­where, some­time, so unwary or so des­per­ate for copy as to buy the worst old dog you, I, or any­body else can throw at him.’”

    Heinlein thought his time was more valu­able than the time of all those edi­tors and read­ers con­sum­ing his ‘old dogs’.

    Heinlein was a dick.

    On mak­ing short fic­tion pay:

    Ain’t gonna happen.

    At least, if you con­sider writ­ing short fic­tion as an activ­ity sep­a­rate from writ­ing nov­els, blog­ging, pod­cast­ing and every­thing else you do. Writing short fic­tion alone just isn’t going to pay the bills. But every time you write a great story and it’s pub­lished, it increases the over­all value of your autho­r­ial port­fo­lio. Scalzi (and Doctorow) built audi­ences from blog­ging first and I think you could do that easily.

    But there’s another option — sell­ing sto­ries directly to pay­ing cus­tomers. Bruce Holland Rogers does this for short sto­ries and I’d be inter­ested in know­ing how well it works.

  9. Good points from Greg and Grant.

    I’ve been feed­ing my cow grass all this time. No won­der all that comes out of its ass is shit. I think Heinlein fed his cow a lot of writ­ing and a lot of grass, because he wound up with a lot of money and a lot of shit.

    One has to make one’s own life. In the end one has only one’s self to answer to. I have to go for qual­ity. I may end up with a lot of shitty sto­ries, but I’m shoot­ing for quality.

    Of course, here’s an option: Write loads of one draft sto­ries, but only send out the good ones.

    I have spent years on some sto­ries, but I’m an ADD freak. If I do any writ­ing tonight, it will prob­a­bly con­sist of sprin­kling some words over a half dozen sto­ries. When I’m not worked up about some­thing and have no excit­ing ideas, that’s what I do because noth­ing holds my inter­est. Just to get some words down and push a few sto­ries a tiny bit closer to completion.

    If I write a piece of flash fic­tion and I think it has poten­tial, I usu­ally just write a sec­ond draft and then send it out.

    I have this lit­tle glim­mer of faith in the ideal of mak­ing a liv­ing as a short story writer. I don’t think I’ll ever do it, but I think some­one else could. It just requires an enor­mous amount of time and work. The big lit­er­ary mags will throw down five grand on a good story. I have my faith.

  10. Here’s some­thing else I wanted to say and since I can’t do a rewrite of my first post, I’ll have to set­tle for an addendum.

    There are many times that I don’t even know what my story might be about until after my first draft. I don’t mean the plot, I mean the deeper, human stuff, the chord-striking stuff. The first rewrite I do is about get­ting all of that first draft in line with what I dis­cov­ered the story is really about.

  11. I hate revis­ing but my best sto­ries have had lots of revisions.

    A cou­ple of years ago I took the “Jay Lake” approach and wrote a story every week for a year. The result was inter­est­ing, lots of sto­ries, many of them under­de­vel­oped, some of them good, some of them bad, many of them repet­i­tive. Did any of them need revis­ing? Yes, prob­a­bly all of them except the flash sto­ries. I’m still work­ing through many of them.

    Since then I decided to try and focus on qual­ity, and I’m not sure its worked! So maybe I should go back to blast­ing out the sto­ries first draft style?

    Don’t know. The more I write the harder it seems to get.

  12. Greg makes some great points. When we look at only the strict mon­e­tary value of any­thing con­nected to writ­ing, we often miss the point. Well, first of all, the rea­son to write fic­tion in the first place, which should be for the plea­sure and art of it most or all of the time. But also because of those hid­den ben­e­fits and those hid­den oppor­tu­ni­ties. This year, I sold a story to Conjunctions, a major lit­er­ary mag­a­zine. They only paid $125 for a 4,000-word story. But it put me in front of a dif­fer­ent read­er­ship, and I’m still reap­ing ben­e­fits from that. And Conjunctions as a pub credit will help open the door to other oppor­tu­ni­ties as well. In addi­tion to the stuff that falls into your lap, I see it as *con­sciously* think­ing about the sub­sidiary ben­e­fits of where and how you sell a story, and try­ing, like a chess player, to extrap­o­late sev­eral moves ahead.

    I per­son­ally don’t believe in the story a week thing. It’s a good way to turn out com­pe­tent but not great fic­tion, and very few writ­ers get away with it to any degree.

    Ultimately, we’re on this what, what? Maybe 75 or 80 years. Of that time, maybe 40 years is prime writ­ing time in terms of energy and desire. After that point, we’re all dust any­way. So, why not make it count as much as possible.

    Which I guess is another way of say­ing I always think of income from short sto­ries as a kind of bonus–something unex­pected. I never fig­ure it into my budget.

    JeffV

  13. Er, “on this planet,” that should read.

  14. Huh.

    The world has changed since Heinlein sold unre­vised stuff. And I doubt that his apoc­ryphal chair­maker would have tried to sell some­thing that hadn’t been sanded, stained, and var­nished. I blush at the idea of writ­ing a story and assum­ing it would be good enough to send it straight to JJA with­out revi­sion, much less to Van Gelder. Crazy talk.

    I also think that the real­ity is that nobody makes a liv­ing on short fic­tion. At Clarion we were told that some­one — I think it was Swanwick — decided to go for a year mak­ing a liv­ing only with short fic­tion. He ended up clear­ing around ten thou­sand dol­lars, if I recall cor­rectly. Hard to call 800 bucks a month a liv­ing, and that was a Name.

    So while I like the cow image, it seems to me that short fic­tion is done for love / rep­u­ta­tion / self-marketing. And that it is revised before it is sent out…

  15. I think the story a week dead­line was a great way to jolt me out of a rut of not fin­ish­ing any­thing, and to make me believe that I would always be able to find a new idea to write about. Previous to that I’d writ­ten a story I loved and then got hung up try­ing to match it.

    Ultimately I’m always try­ing to write the best story I can, it just I don’t know how to do that yet!

  16. You don’t nec­es­sar­ily sell a story just once, either. The life cycle for one of my sto­ries gen­er­ally involves the first sale, some num­ber of reprints from zero to a lot (to for­eign mar­kets, reprint antholo­gies, what­ever), often a sale to a pod­cast mag­a­zine, and even­tual appear­ance in a col­lec­tion; I get paid for every one of those steps.

  17. Dean Wesley Smith told another writer (who was sit­ting next to me, so he may have been address­ing both of us) the way to win WotF was to wait until 24 hours before the dead­line, write a story, spell check it, and toss it in the mail.

    I think the gen­eral idea is to get to the 1-million-word mark. Submitting dur­ing this period is up to the author, and for some suc­cess comes early. For oth­ers (like my, sadly) suc­cess is delayed until I write through my “garbage period.”

  18. This has been a really inter­est­ing dis­cus­sion! To address your orig­i­nal eco­nomic per­spec­tive, what I’m see­ing in the com­ments is that short fic­tion serves the pur­pose of a loss leader. Just like the $10.00 dvds for sale at Best Buy, the pur­pose of short fic­tion is to entice peo­ple to sup­port your big­ger, more prof­itable forms of writing.

    I think this is also what the cow anal­ogy was get­ting at. Albeit in a looser, more lib­eral arts fash­ion. (I say that with love, hav­ing a lib­eral arts degree myself.)

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