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		<title>By: NunoXEI</title>
		<link>http://www.jeremiahtolbert.com/2008/five-unconventional-zine-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-12868</link>
		<dc:creator>NunoXEI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 01:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can NOT believe how close The Story Factory model is to the direction I may be going with a project very very soon!

I have been working on a personal project for six years now (in concept, writing and artwork design) off and on. Things keep coming up unless you stop all of it to finally get the work done that you REALLY enjoy doing; for me it was to finish this &quot;World Concept Bible&quot; that would break down all the pieces that I could then build on.

This week I&#039;ve been rolling a Creative Commons angle around in my head very seriously since I&#039;ve already accepted that I&#039;m likely going to hire freelance writers to help build up the core content--paid for of course. 

I am a HUGE fan of the CC license during my last 4 years doing web projects especially (all of which are By-Attribution now). I&#039;d hate to use this post as a form of advertising, but if ANY writers out there are looking to pass their writing samples anywhere--please send me a link or sample! Click on my name above and we&#039;ll initially connect that way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can NOT believe how close The Story Factory model is to the direction I may be going with a project very very soon!</p>
<p>I have been working on a personal project for six years now (in concept, writing and artwork design) off and on. Things keep coming up unless you stop all of it to finally get the work done that you REALLY enjoy doing; for me it was to finish this &#8220;World Concept Bible&#8221; that would break down all the pieces that I could then build on.</p>
<p>This week I&#8217;ve been rolling a Creative Commons angle around in my head very seriously since I&#8217;ve already accepted that I&#8217;m likely going to hire freelance writers to help build up the core content&#8211;paid for of course. </p>
<p>I am a HUGE fan of the CC license during my last 4 years doing web projects especially (all of which are By-Attribution now). I&#8217;d hate to use this post as a form of advertising, but if ANY writers out there are looking to pass their writing samples anywhere&#8211;please send me a link or sample! Click on my name above and we&#8217;ll initially connect that way!</p>
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		<title>By: L&#228;st och uppskattat under veckan : Medspel</title>
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		<dc:creator>L&#228;st och uppskattat under veckan : Medspel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Five Unconventional Zine Model Ideas (ARG game* OR spel - Google Bloggsök) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Willow Fagan</title>
		<link>http://www.jeremiahtolbert.com/2008/five-unconventional-zine-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-758</link>
		<dc:creator>Willow Fagan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 22:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the idea of &lt;i&gt;The Story Factory&lt;/i&gt;.  One concern, though, is that you can&#039;t really differentiate once you license commercial derivative works, right?  So someone&#039;s story could be made into a movie, or their character turned into a mascot for a fast food company, without the author having any control or reimbursement.  Unlikely, probably, but still a concern.

In &lt;i&gt;The Mob&lt;/i&gt;, would second level consideration be less likely to be thought of as publication if the core fans weren&#039;t paying to read the stories?  I think there&#039;s several different directions you could take this basic approach.  One would be to not require a password or reader payment, and have any readers vote on the popularity, with more popular stories being featured more prominently on the site.
Also, could you weld this onto some already existing social structure, and have it be the official publication of, say, a writer&#039;s association?

I know some writers of RPGs have released material based on a &quot;hostage model&quot;, where they say, &quot;I&#039;ll release this material for free on the net once people donate $100&quot; or whatever sum.  I&#039;m not sure how that model could be translated to a zine rather than an individual author though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the idea of <i>The Story Factory</i>.  One concern, though, is that you can&#8217;t really differentiate once you license commercial derivative works, right?  So someone&#8217;s story could be made into a movie, or their character turned into a mascot for a fast food company, without the author having any control or reimbursement.  Unlikely, probably, but still a concern.</p>
<p>In <i>The Mob</i>, would second level consideration be less likely to be thought of as publication if the core fans weren&#8217;t paying to read the stories?  I think there&#8217;s several different directions you could take this basic approach.  One would be to not require a password or reader payment, and have any readers vote on the popularity, with more popular stories being featured more prominently on the site.<br />
Also, could you weld this onto some already existing social structure, and have it be the official publication of, say, a writer&#8217;s association?</p>
<p>I know some writers of RPGs have released material based on a &#8220;hostage model&#8221;, where they say, &#8220;I&#8217;ll release this material for free on the net once people donate $100&#8243; or whatever sum.  I&#8217;m not sure how that model could be translated to a zine rather than an individual author though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Friday Photo Blogging: I CAN HAS AMPLIFIER? redux &#124; Velcro City Tourist Board</title>
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		<dc:creator>Friday Photo Blogging: I CAN HAS AMPLIFIER? redux &#124; Velcro City Tourist Board</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 17:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and payment as Ed-in-Chief, which feels both weird and cool at once. Now, if I can just put some of Jeremy’s ideas into action [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Links for 23-05-2008 &#124; Velcro City Tourist Board</title>
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		<dc:creator>Links for 23-05-2008 &#124; Velcro City Tourist Board</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 03:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - Five Unconventional Zine Model Ideas If you read, write, edit or publish genre fiction, READ THIS. NOW. (tags: profitability longevity [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 23:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots to think about, but the one that&#039;s really caught me is the mini-ARG. Being smaller might run counter to some of the ways that ARGs typically work, but that might mean that it would work in other, different ways. 

And then there&#039;s the possibility of a network/serial of smaller ARGs, each of which is trying to capture some facet of a larger world...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots to think about, but the one that&#8217;s really caught me is the mini-ARG. Being smaller might run counter to some of the ways that ARGs typically work, but that might mean that it would work in other, different ways. </p>
<p>And then there&#8217;s the possibility of a network/serial of smaller ARGs, each of which is trying to capture some facet of a larger world&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Stoddard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Stoddard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 15:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Echoing Paul. I know we&#039;ve both talked about these models. 

The Mob and The Soup were part of our Big Scary Idea for a workable, ad-supported online fiction publishing platform. Unfortunately, my day job is eating my life, or I might be able to pay more attention to BSI. 

On the ARG side, we&#039;re actively producing one as we speak (for a client that shall remain nameless). The business model on ARGs demands either (a) sponsorship, (b) building from a popular fictional world, or (c) ideally both. 

When you&#039;re building from a popular fictional world (we&#039;re talking mega-bestseller or mega-blockbuster here), it is possible that you could fund an ARG by selling ancillary content. Yep, merchandising. We&#039;re finding that many, many people will pay good money for &quot;real&quot; stuff that comes from places, companies, or people who never existed. 

Keep thinkin. We&#039;ll change this model sooner or later!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Echoing Paul. I know we&#8217;ve both talked about these models. </p>
<p>The Mob and The Soup were part of our Big Scary Idea for a workable, ad-supported online fiction publishing platform. Unfortunately, my day job is eating my life, or I might be able to pay more attention to BSI. </p>
<p>On the ARG side, we&#8217;re actively producing one as we speak (for a client that shall remain nameless). The business model on ARGs demands either (a) sponsorship, (b) building from a popular fictional world, or (c) ideally both. </p>
<p>When you&#8217;re building from a popular fictional world (we&#8217;re talking mega-bestseller or mega-blockbuster here), it is possible that you could fund an ARG by selling ancillary content. Yep, merchandising. We&#8217;re finding that many, many people will pay good money for &#8220;real&#8221; stuff that comes from places, companies, or people who never existed. </p>
<p>Keep thinkin. We&#8217;ll change this model sooner or later!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 21:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously good post, man. You&#039;re cranking out some major ideas at the moment, and I wish I wasn&#039;t so busy down in the trenches that I don&#039;t have more time to hang in the general&#039;s tent. But this is good, keep kicking these ideas about - people are watching, reading, learning. Hell , if I had money I&#039;d hire you right now. But then if genre had money, you&#039;d never have written this post, perhaps ... ;)

Joking aside - great post. Every publisher should read this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously good post, man. You&#8217;re cranking out some major ideas at the moment, and I wish I wasn&#8217;t so busy down in the trenches that I don&#8217;t have more time to hang in the general&#8217;s tent. But this is good, keep kicking these ideas about &#8211; people are watching, reading, learning. Hell , if I had money I&#8217;d hire you right now. But then if genre had money, you&#8217;d never have written this post, perhaps &#8230; ;)</p>
<p>Joking aside &#8211; great post. Every publisher should read this.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah Tolbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremiah Tolbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 18:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Eric.  I look forward to your thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Eric.  I look forward to your thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Marin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Marin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 17:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those are all very intriguing models, Jeremy. I need to think about the ideas some more before I share any specific thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are all very intriguing models, Jeremy. I need to think about the ideas some more before I share any specific thoughts.</p>
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