Jeremiah Tolbert

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More Thoughts on the Depression of Science Fiction

Charlie Finlay said in the com­ments on the last post that, for the past sev­eral years, every SF novel he’s read has seemed this way, which is why he’s trended towards fan­tasy. So I put some thought into what SF nov­els I had read recently.

The Execution Channel was the most recent one. Holy smokes, was this depress­ing. So it fits the bill. Postsingular seemed a lot more upbeat. In fact, it was the first near-future SF any­thing that I’ve read in a while that didn’t men­tion ter­ror­ism. So I haven’t really noticed a trend of depres­sive ele­ments in my most recent read­ing of nov­els, but then, I don’t read a lot of SF novels.

I do know that Gordon has been talk­ing about get­ting a lot more sto­ries about death for a while now. Maybe I’m just now start­ing to see those sto­ries being pub­lished here and there.

It’s odd, because I’ve spent the past cou­ple of years kind of obsessed with death and the after­life, and now that I’m com­ing out of that obses­sion and start­ing to feel bet­ter, I find death all over the place in my read­ing. Was it that com­mon of a theme before? Not sure. I don’t remem­ber it being so, but it’s prob­a­bly a mat­ter of my changed per­spec­tive as much as any­thing else.

Some ques­tions.

1. Does any­one know how rel­a­tively opti­mistic the SF pub­lished in China is?

2. I don’t read Baen’s–are they more upbeat?

3. Do you think British writ­ers have been more prone to depres­sive stuff since their own ter­ror­ist attacks recently?

4. Is there a need for upbeat SF? Not nec­es­sar­ily more pos­i­tive, but maybe less, well, grim?

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  1. It’s very inter­est­ing, as I’m research­ing the preva­lence of dystopias in Korean sci­ence fic­tion… as in, the absence of any­thing but dystopias in Korea SF. (But all I really have access to is films: I don’t know of any Korean SF authors, as opposed to fan­tasy and hor­ror, which exist in larger numbers.

    My impres­sion was that British SF is not so dark as American is right now — that this is still a trend. But even so, Jetse de Vries was com­ment­ing on the dark­ness of sub­mis­sions to Interzone more than a year ago, so maybe this hits short story mar­kets first?

    I’m oddly attracted to the ques­tion of whether Canadian SF is less neg­a­tive. I mean, Robert Charles Wilson, Bob Sawyer, Cory Doctorow (we can claim him as Canadian, can’t we?)… they don’t seem like pes­simists to me.

    The ter­ror­ism thing — yeah, I am kind of mak­ing an effort to avoid it in sto­ries these days. Weirdly, I was writ­ing sto­ries about scary techno– or bio-terrorists before 9–11, and as soon as it hap­pened, I fig­ured, well, shit,that’s old news now, what can I do next. (That said, the story I most recently sold to Asimov’s involves eco-terrorism on a huge scale. But I’m try­ing to steer clear of it as a theme… If some­one wants to shed light on how we think of ter­ror­ists, it seems it’d be bet­ter to explore it through some­thing that looks like some­thing else. Like mythic 19th cen­tury “Anarchists” for exam­ple. Sort of like how the bug-people — what were they called again — in Perdido Street Station felt quite anal­o­gous to how Westerners in the 19th cen­tury felt about Chinese immi­grant com­mu­ni­ties, and the immi­grants’ rec­i­p­ro­cal feelings.)

    I’ve no idea what kind of stuff is being pub­lished in China, but I could ask my Chinese exchange stu­dents whether they have any friends who could answer that ques­tion. Someone’s gotta know some­one, the stuff is so pop­u­lar there.

    Shoot me an email if I don’t post about it in the next week or so, would you?

  2. I think it def­i­nitely hits the short story mar­kets first. Canadians so far def­i­nitely seem more upbeat, based on your exam­ples. I am not sure about the Brits though. They seem to have a dark streak, but they haven’t had their psy­ches bruised as badly as Americans have by 9/11. You make an excel­lent point about how to explore that theme, and I agree definitely.

    I’ll shoot you an email about the China topic next week if I don’t see more about the sub­ject. Thanks for dig­ging into that!

  3. I didn’t find any stu­dents who had an answer to your ques­tion, but if you like, I bet this blog­ger would be happy to answer your ques­tion with a nice blog post!

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